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Post by shibolet on Dec 18, 2004 11:07:35 GMT -5
Hi everybody, These are the first entries for the new USNS Online Library. The webpages are not yet migrated, so can be seen for now on my homepage (which is getting quite full, by the way): www.home.zonnet.nl/shiboleth/Enderbyland.htmlwww.home.zonnet.nl/shiboleth/McMurdo.htmlwww.home.zonnet.nl/shiboleth/Kerguelen.htmlI have not linked them to my Tædium site, as they are in USNS "colours". When the library is "open" to the members, I will empty my homepage (except for the Christiania & Torgu entries) and add a text (with hyperlink) to my homepage which will say something like: "interested in information about other unusual coins? Join the USNS! Our coin library has loads of detailed info about the coins of many other Unrecognised, Fantasy & Unusual locations!" etc. etc. etc. Chaim
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Post by shibolet on Dec 20, 2004 11:18:14 GMT -5
Just added the following entry: Repubblica del Nord issues (pre-Padania) www.home.zonnet.nl/shiboleth/repnord.htmlI haven't yet gotten Gianpy's permission to use his photo's, so this list is ONLY FOR INTERNAL USE and may not be duplicated!!! When I have the photo's from Walter and/or permission from Gianpy this page will be ready to be migrated. The second part of the list (Padania issues) will be ready in the coming weeks, after which Friuli & Movemente Piemontese will (eventually) be added. Chaim Hi everybody, These are the first entries for the new USNS Online Library. The webpages are not yet migrated, so can be seen for now on my homepage (which is getting quite full, by the way): www.home.zonnet.nl/shiboleth/Enderbyland.htmlwww.home.zonnet.nl/shiboleth/McMurdo.htmlwww.home.zonnet.nl/shiboleth/Kerguelen.htmlI have not linked them to my Tædium site, as they are in USNS "colours". When the library is "open" to the members, I will empty my homepage (except for the Christiania & Torgu entries) and add a text (with hyperlink) to my homepage which will say something like: "interested in information about other unusual coins? Join the USNS! Our coin library has loads of detailed info about the coins of many other Unrecognised, Fantasy & Unusual locations!" etc. etc. etc. Chaim
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Post by George on Dec 21, 2004 20:43:41 GMT -5
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Post by shibolet on Dec 22, 2004 6:09:45 GMT -5
Hi George, The library looks good! Just a few corrections/additions (there will probably be more to come...) additions: Universala Liga / Esperanto ( Alternative Currencies) Antarctica - McMurdo Station ( fantasies-private) Trebizond, Empire of ( royal houses) Brechou, Island of ( miscellanious) St. Barthelemy, Island of ( miscellanious) Kurdistan, State of ( seccession) Kaliningrad Enclave( miscellanious??) Cat Cay, Island of ( miscellaniousCorrections:Mundiniero = MUNDINERO Universo = UNIVERSARO Pope Matthew I = VATICAN, POPE MATTHEW FANTASY Atlantis = ATLANTIS, KINGDOM OF Nagornoh-Karabagh = NAGORNO-KARABAGH TIBET -> is government in exile, not rebel kingdom And, it's OK if you add links to my "zonnet" homepage for McMurdo, Enderbyland & Kerguelen (they're ready)as temporary part of the USNS site... until we migrate them: www.home.zonnet.nl/shiboleth/Enderbyland.htmlwww.home.zonnet.nl/shiboleth/McMurdo.htmlwww.home.zonnet.nl/shiboleth/Kerguelen.htmlRegards, Chaim
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Post by George on Dec 22, 2004 6:25:38 GMT -5
Thanks Chaim. I'll do the changes shortly.
Just 1 question:
1. The Pope Matthew coin doesn't actually say "Vatican" anywhere on the coin. Is this standard practise for Vatican coins? ie is it intended to be a Vatican fantasy, or simply a non-Vatican papal fantasy? Also, is it one of Fred Zinkan's creations? I just bought one of them from him through eBay earlier today.
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Post by shibolet on Dec 22, 2004 6:40:47 GMT -5
Hi George,
The modern coins of the Vatican do mention their origin as being from the "City of the Vatican", but some papal issues from earlier centuries only mention the name of the pope. And, yes, it is one of Fred Zinkann's creations.
Fred sells them as "papal fantasy" without mentioning "Vatican" but we've listed them earlier in the newsgroup as being the Vatican Papal Fantasies...
So we'll have to decide what the best way to list these is...
Chaim
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Post by George on Dec 22, 2004 6:54:01 GMT -5
I'm leaning towards "papal fantasy" as a neutral compromise; if the fantasy is supposed to be "old", based on the choice of currency unit, then the correct name of the originating political entity would be "The Papal States", and not the Vatican City State.
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Post by shibolet on Dec 22, 2004 8:14:33 GMT -5
Then "Papal Fantasy" it is... unless/until someone else comes up with a better option...
Chaim
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Post by George on Dec 23, 2004 2:51:47 GMT -5
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Post by shibolet on Dec 23, 2004 6:50:36 GMT -5
Hi George,
A few additions / corrections:
The Poarch Creek Indians have more coins than the palladium issue you mentioned (2 types silver proof, 2 types bu, a gold 5$ and a cu-ni "mule").
Cherokee Nation CN-002B (50 Eagles silver) is not speculative; I have one! (will send details later this week).
CN-003: is that John Cornsilk's 1 Adela issue? Shouldn't "Cherokee Nation of 1839" be a different category?
As far as I know SN-001A and SN-001B are the same coin, issued in matte BU. Although I've seen it sold on eBay as Uncirculated and as BU, PandaAmerica (the minters) claim only ONE type.
Good coin hunting,
Chaim
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Post by George on Dec 23, 2004 8:17:02 GMT -5
Hi Chaim,
1. Poarch Creek - somehow I overlooked the other coins altogether. I will fix that tomorrow.
2. Cherokee Nation 50 Eagles - please send scan!
3. Cherokee - other coins. As this is not my collecting area I don't yet fully understand how many coin issuing groups there are, and so haven't quite decided how to arrange them yet. Current arrangement is a best guess. My original thought was to list them all together under "Cherokee Nation" but break it up chronologically by issuer. That may or may not be practical. There are 2 Cherokee coins in the Yahoo photos section. One is dated 1972 and the other is an undated medallic piece. Are these Adela pieces?
4. SN-001A and SN-001B are listed as 2 different coins on the Panda America site - one graded more highy than the other - and priced significantly higher.
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Post by shibolet on Dec 23, 2004 9:01:12 GMT -5
Hi George, Ad 2. Cherokee Nation 50 Eagles. I will send you a JPG-scan this weekend! Ad 3. Cherokee Nation - other coins. There are 2 issuing groups in total, Cherokee Nation (Williams) and Cherokee Nation of 1839 (Cornsilk). The Cornsilk 2000 dated silver 1 Adela issue is called "CHEROKEE NATION 999 SILVER" on the yahoo group site. The same scan is available on www.cornsilks.com/coins.htm. About the 1972 issue (CN-001) - which coin do you mean? if it's the 1973 scan on the yahoo group site, then that's only a silver medal, NOT a coin... if it's another coin you mean, do you have a scan or other info? (Erik doesn't mention this one on his links site either...). I don't have the Bruce UWC3 so I can't check if there's one mentioned there... Ad 4 (SN-001A and SN-001B) Do you mean the difference in coins as stated by grading on webpage pandaamerica.com/subcategory.asp?subcat=163&categ=77&grp=1 ? If so, the difference in price is only because one has been slabbed and graded by ICG, not because of a difference in type. If you're talking about another type, then I miss that one AND it cannot be ordered via PandaAmerica (I'll have to mail Kitty Quan (at PandaAmerica) personally and "yell" at her , she told me I had ALL the different types they minted... ) Good coin hunting Chaim
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Post by George on Dec 23, 2004 17:13:20 GMT -5
1. Look forward to the scan.
2. My mistake - working from memory - I meant the 1973 medal. Have expunged from catalogue.
3. SN-001A and SN-001B are the same - I didn't realise the price difference related to the cost of slabbing/grading. Mostly buying obscure 1-off pieces I'm unfamiliar with contemporary market-driven procedures of this nature. :-)
4. I have now separated out each of the 4 Native American groups on their own pages, with the summary at the foot of the page. I think this works much better than the previous layout. Will upload shortly.
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Post by shibolet on Dec 25, 2004 3:41:03 GMT -5
George,
These are the details for:
USNS-CHN 001B
Year: 1980 Metal: .925 Silver, fineness countermarked Condition: Proof Designer: Mint: Mintage: 500 pcs. Weight: 30.5 gr. Diameter: 42 mm Denomination: 50 Eagles Edge type: reeded
I've sent you the photo's via email.
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Post by shibolet on Dec 27, 2004 3:16:01 GMT -5
George,
Extra details on the New Island Roger.
These are the details for:
USNS-NIS-C 001A
Year: 2003 Metal: Brass Condition: Unc Designer: Lee Mothes Mint: Hoffman Mint, USA Mintage: Weight: 12.5 gr. Diameter: 30mm Denomination: 1 Roger Edge type: reeded Rotation: medal
Year: 2003 Metal: 999 silver Condition: B.Unc Designer: Lee Mothes Mint: Hoffman Mint, USA Mintage: 100 Weight: 13.5 gr. Diameter: 30mm Denomination: 1 Roger Edge type: reeded Rotation: coin
I also have an error coin in my collection : a rotated brass 1 roger (30 degrees rotation to the left).
I've sent you the photo of the silver coin via email.
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