Post by evm111 on Jun 8, 2005 14:07:28 GMT -5
Hello Group- here is a new listing I've put together-
ROYAL HOUSE OF BOURBON OF THE TWO SICILIES,
SACRED MILITARY CONSTANTINIAN ORDER OF ST. GEORGE:
These 1 Euro coins were issued by Knight Arturo Arcellaschi to commemorate the visit to Como, in April of 2000, by their majesties LL.AA.RR. Charles and Camilla di Borbone delle Due Sicilie, Duke and Duchess of Calabria, who delivered the labarum (an ecclesiastical banner/military standard/flag of victory created by Emperor Constantine I; it displays the first 2 Greek letters of Christ's name, and is sometimes referred to as His “monogram”) to the Delegation of Como and presented the insignia to the newly-appointed knights. These bi-metallic coins were struck by the International Mint in Torino; the Borbone piece is dated 2000, but the Costantiniano piece is undated (their Euro-sides are almost identical to the one on the bi-metallic 2003 Padania 1 Euro). According to Mr. Walter Giuliani, 5 special gold/silver pieces were given “to the sovereigns, to bishop of Como, to the Big Teacher of the order and to Commander of Como.” I chanced upon a pair of the bronze/silver coins on eBay; bronze/cupro-nickel pieces also exist. The official Web-site of the Royal House is:
www.realcasadiborbone.it/index/index.htm
The site also houses a large section devoted to the Constantinian Order, which once belonged “to the Comneni family of Imperators of the Eastern Roman Empire”. They claim that “in the 18th century the Grand Magistero of the Order was inherited by the Head of the Royal House of Bourbon Two Sicilies.” More specifically, “several decrees issued between 1734 and 1861 made clear that the Grand Magistero of the Constantinian Order cannot be separated from the supremacy of the Royal House of the Two Sicilies.” Today, its Grand Master is His Royal Highness Prince Ferdinand (de jure, Ferdinand IV), Duke of Castro. One of his 3 children, HRH Prince Charles, is its Grand Prefect; this heir represents the Order and “has been personally managing” their activities. Not surprisingly, this is the topic of some controversy. It is an issue which “arose some time ago - which in reality is just a false problem...between the lineage of the Bourbon lawfully entitled to the Grand Magister of the Order — i.e. the Bourbon Two Sicilies — and a Prince of the Spanish Royal Family, who is claiming some rights over his entitlement to the Bourbon family of the Two Sicilies and therefore the Constantinian Order.” The question, they claim, “has been now peacefully solved: however, since the propaganda led by this prince could mix up the ideas of non experts and mislead others,” they supply “details on this matter and try to provide a clear and unquestionable explanation of the truth.” The non-Italian, “Spaniard arm” of the Constantinian Order has their own official Web-site:
www.constantinianorder.org/
ROYAL HOUSE OF SAVOY,
ORDER OF SAINTS MAURICE AND LAZARUS:
There's hardly anything significant to report about this particular twosome, except that they were produced by the International Mint, exactly like the previous couple. I purchased a silver 1 Euro pair, each of which are dated 2000. The current head of the House of Savoy is HRH Prince Victor Emmanuel IV, Prince of Naples and twenty-sixth Duke of Savoy. There is a great deal of information about this House on the Internet; two interesting sites are:
www.savoydelegation-usa.org/
www.regalis.com/savoy.htm
The Ordine dei SS Maurizio e Lazzaro was created in 1572, when the Order of Saint Lazarus merged with the Order of Saint Maurice. Because it is a dynastic order of the Royal House of Savoy, the present Grand Master of this Order of Chivalry is Crown Prince Vittorio Emanuele (IV) of Italy. I found some interesting “facts” about the Order of St. Lazarus on a Web-site written by François R. Velde. After giving an extremely detailed history of the order, he points out that it was allowed to become extinct in 1814 and that it disappeared in the 1840s with the death of its last original knights. However, it was brought back to life in 1910 by a Frenchman named Paul Watrin (a knight in the Order of the Militia of Jesus-Christ), based on the supposition that the medieval order had survived the “temporary” 16th century melding. Since then, this neo-order (which apparently has no connection with the Order of Saints Maurice and Lazarus) has been criticized as being a self-styled, 20th century private revival of a defunct order (partly because its unsavory rebirth involved a pair of “crooks”). Even though the activities of the current organization may be valuable and undeniably honorable, it appears as though the Italian government has placed this charitable fraternity on its official list of bogus/fraudulent orders. The Holy See has repeatedly stated, to this day, that it does not regard the present-day Order of Saint Lazarus (no matter how earnestly they attempt to carry on its intrinsic “tradition”) as the continuation of the historical order which bears that name. Also adhering to a strict definition of “legitimacy”, the Sovereign Military Order of Malta discourages its members from joining the Lazarists.
The Order of St. Lazarus contends that after the Order of Saints Maurice and Lazarus was created, “it soon became nothing more than a distinction of the House of Savoy and after the unification of Italy, a state order in the gift of the Crown of Italy.” Their “official webpage” is: www.oslj.org/Pages/index.html
The official Web-site of the Order of Saints Maurice and Lazarus is:
www.aicods.org/Savoia.htm
As for the Borbone/Costantiniano duo, I know that Mia Scris (info@miascris.com) has 5 sets of these for sale.
ROYAL HOUSE OF BOURBON OF THE TWO SICILIES,
SACRED MILITARY CONSTANTINIAN ORDER OF ST. GEORGE:
These 1 Euro coins were issued by Knight Arturo Arcellaschi to commemorate the visit to Como, in April of 2000, by their majesties LL.AA.RR. Charles and Camilla di Borbone delle Due Sicilie, Duke and Duchess of Calabria, who delivered the labarum (an ecclesiastical banner/military standard/flag of victory created by Emperor Constantine I; it displays the first 2 Greek letters of Christ's name, and is sometimes referred to as His “monogram”) to the Delegation of Como and presented the insignia to the newly-appointed knights. These bi-metallic coins were struck by the International Mint in Torino; the Borbone piece is dated 2000, but the Costantiniano piece is undated (their Euro-sides are almost identical to the one on the bi-metallic 2003 Padania 1 Euro). According to Mr. Walter Giuliani, 5 special gold/silver pieces were given “to the sovereigns, to bishop of Como, to the Big Teacher of the order and to Commander of Como.” I chanced upon a pair of the bronze/silver coins on eBay; bronze/cupro-nickel pieces also exist. The official Web-site of the Royal House is:
www.realcasadiborbone.it/index/index.htm
The site also houses a large section devoted to the Constantinian Order, which once belonged “to the Comneni family of Imperators of the Eastern Roman Empire”. They claim that “in the 18th century the Grand Magistero of the Order was inherited by the Head of the Royal House of Bourbon Two Sicilies.” More specifically, “several decrees issued between 1734 and 1861 made clear that the Grand Magistero of the Constantinian Order cannot be separated from the supremacy of the Royal House of the Two Sicilies.” Today, its Grand Master is His Royal Highness Prince Ferdinand (de jure, Ferdinand IV), Duke of Castro. One of his 3 children, HRH Prince Charles, is its Grand Prefect; this heir represents the Order and “has been personally managing” their activities. Not surprisingly, this is the topic of some controversy. It is an issue which “arose some time ago - which in reality is just a false problem...between the lineage of the Bourbon lawfully entitled to the Grand Magister of the Order — i.e. the Bourbon Two Sicilies — and a Prince of the Spanish Royal Family, who is claiming some rights over his entitlement to the Bourbon family of the Two Sicilies and therefore the Constantinian Order.” The question, they claim, “has been now peacefully solved: however, since the propaganda led by this prince could mix up the ideas of non experts and mislead others,” they supply “details on this matter and try to provide a clear and unquestionable explanation of the truth.” The non-Italian, “Spaniard arm” of the Constantinian Order has their own official Web-site:
www.constantinianorder.org/
ROYAL HOUSE OF SAVOY,
ORDER OF SAINTS MAURICE AND LAZARUS:
There's hardly anything significant to report about this particular twosome, except that they were produced by the International Mint, exactly like the previous couple. I purchased a silver 1 Euro pair, each of which are dated 2000. The current head of the House of Savoy is HRH Prince Victor Emmanuel IV, Prince of Naples and twenty-sixth Duke of Savoy. There is a great deal of information about this House on the Internet; two interesting sites are:
www.savoydelegation-usa.org/
www.regalis.com/savoy.htm
The Ordine dei SS Maurizio e Lazzaro was created in 1572, when the Order of Saint Lazarus merged with the Order of Saint Maurice. Because it is a dynastic order of the Royal House of Savoy, the present Grand Master of this Order of Chivalry is Crown Prince Vittorio Emanuele (IV) of Italy. I found some interesting “facts” about the Order of St. Lazarus on a Web-site written by François R. Velde. After giving an extremely detailed history of the order, he points out that it was allowed to become extinct in 1814 and that it disappeared in the 1840s with the death of its last original knights. However, it was brought back to life in 1910 by a Frenchman named Paul Watrin (a knight in the Order of the Militia of Jesus-Christ), based on the supposition that the medieval order had survived the “temporary” 16th century melding. Since then, this neo-order (which apparently has no connection with the Order of Saints Maurice and Lazarus) has been criticized as being a self-styled, 20th century private revival of a defunct order (partly because its unsavory rebirth involved a pair of “crooks”). Even though the activities of the current organization may be valuable and undeniably honorable, it appears as though the Italian government has placed this charitable fraternity on its official list of bogus/fraudulent orders. The Holy See has repeatedly stated, to this day, that it does not regard the present-day Order of Saint Lazarus (no matter how earnestly they attempt to carry on its intrinsic “tradition”) as the continuation of the historical order which bears that name. Also adhering to a strict definition of “legitimacy”, the Sovereign Military Order of Malta discourages its members from joining the Lazarists.
The Order of St. Lazarus contends that after the Order of Saints Maurice and Lazarus was created, “it soon became nothing more than a distinction of the House of Savoy and after the unification of Italy, a state order in the gift of the Crown of Italy.” Their “official webpage” is: www.oslj.org/Pages/index.html
The official Web-site of the Order of Saints Maurice and Lazarus is:
www.aicods.org/Savoia.htm
As for the Borbone/Costantiniano duo, I know that Mia Scris (info@miascris.com) has 5 sets of these for sale.