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Post by shibolet on Jan 13, 2005 14:14:31 GMT -5
Hi everybody,
We know of two different types (5 skaloj and 20 skaloj), both mentioned in Bruce's UWC3) and mentioned by knossos in a different thread.
I quote: "There are only two listed in this category in the Bruce catalog erd ed... 1933, 5 Skaloj, Prince Regent Christiano I, bronze, mintage and values unknown, (but I happen to recall one of the 5 Skaloj going on eBay a couple weeks ago for around $25), obv. date and name of Regent, rev. denomination, Bruce X2 1933, 20 Skaloj, silver, mintage and valuation figures unknown, obv. Regent's name and date, rev. denomination, Bruce X4 ...The 1933 Atlantis coins of the Century of Progress Exposition in Chicago cannot possibly be considered a "real" country". End quote
As far as we know knossos is right and these should be considered fantasies... unless proven otherwise.
My questions are: 1) Does anyone have any knowledge of the background of these coins? 2) Does anyone except for Erik and me have any of the 1933 "Regency of Atlantis" coins? 3) My 20 skaloj is rotated 35 degrees to the right; are there any other examples known with (or without) rotation? 4) Are the 5 skaloj coins that are known to exist, with a medallic allignment or a coin allignment, or are they rotated as well? Erik, what about your 5 skaloj ?
Anyone???
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Post by shibolet on Jan 13, 2005 14:18:25 GMT -5
The reason I'm asking all this is because I want to add a coin library page for Atlantis (Regency), but miss a lot of essential details... the only things we have are one coin of each of the two existing denomination (unless other denominations exist as well...), of which one is an error to boot .
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Post by evm111 on Jan 13, 2005 20:47:08 GMT -5
Hello! I just checked my 5 Skaloj and it is medal-allignment.
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Post by shibolet on Jan 14, 2005 3:27:17 GMT -5
Thanks Erik! I want to make a ("provisional") listing for these in the USNS coin library, and need all the info I can get. We can always change the library listing if we ever get any additional info... but starting off with everything known to exist is always easier than making changes every tuesday and friday... (saves George a lot of hassle as well ).
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Post by George on Jan 14, 2005 19:30:33 GMT -5
Do we have any idea where these Atlantis coins originate. To my ear "skaloj" could be Esperanto (steloj), Scandinavian or Eastern European. However as I speak no language that falls within those groups I'm really just guessing.
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Post by shibolet on Jan 15, 2005 2:00:51 GMT -5
Hi George,
Skaloj is definitely Esperanto. "Skalo" means "scale" as in amount or measurement. "J" is the suffix for plural.
About where they originate, we only have that one sentence from the Bruce UWC. I do know however, that there was a hype in the US in the beginning of the 30's regarding Atlantis, which coincided with one of the internationally most fruitful periods of the Esperanto language. What the further connection is, we can only guess. Is there an official link? I doubt it!
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Post by evm111 on Jan 15, 2005 20:45:15 GMT -5
Yeah, I've gotten a definition of Skaloj from 2 folks who speak Esperanto, and it is a scale of measurement. On Google, I have come across other references to the word Skaloj in non-Esperanto religious terms, most probably Greek: (dida,skaloj – didaskalos [teacher]); and “expounders of the Law (nomodida,skaloj)"; and "dida/skaloj, didaska/lou, o( , teacher"; and dioa/skaloj, or Master. Something from the Maccabees (?). Erik
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Post by evm111 on Jan 15, 2005 20:48:45 GMT -5
Here's one more: dida/skaloj, master ( = teacher); schoolmaster, teacher.
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