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Post by shibolet on Jan 1, 2005 3:57:25 GMT -5
Regarding the discussion about the search for a coin name for a USNS coin in the "old" USNS newsgroup: Alejandro, I think you're right about "shekel" being too "Mishpoche"; Also, what happens if someone orders 30 shekels in silver ? Especially now, when we have 13 USNS members! creepy? nah, just coincidence... or is it? Regarding the use of "SOVEREIGN", Fred Zinkann used that one recently for Enderbyland AND you need to be a Kingdom to use the denomination PROPERLY... So, how about "ARGOS" as a more international (and as far as I know never used) alternative? Argos (in English also known as ARGUS), the hundred-eyed, ever watchful and all-seeing giant of Greek mythology, Used internationally in the figurative sense of "very vigilant" (...in search for new coins / locations?), AND ARGOS the shipbuilder , who built the ship "the Argo", with which the Argonauts sailed with in search of the Golden Fleece (aren't we all in search of the Golden Fleece in some way or other...). The Argonauts, 50 brave men who started on a journey they did not know the ending of... (sounds familiar?), AND ARGOS, meaning literally "the bright one," from the greek word argos meaning "shining, bright". And from this name comes that of the most alive of all metals, ARGENTUM (the "official" name of silver), meaning "shining /white metal". Well, think about it...
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Post by gkmac123 on Jan 1, 2005 10:31:04 GMT -5
I like "Odeds", or perhaps even better... "Paz" (It's both singular and plural.) as a denominational name for the USNS's coin.
I'm only semi-serious about my choice, as "Paz" is good, but... I do see Alejandro's point and I think it is a good one. Maybe we should select a denomination that has no historical or geographical ties to it and one that better represents the diversity of the USNS. That's why I like Alejandro's "worldinius" and "statesiums" better. Other possibilities could be "micronatiums" or "unrecogniziums" (or with a "s") or "numismaticos" or "mavericks".
Maybe we members should submit some possible denominational names (no more than 5 per person) and, once they are compiled and posted in one place, we submit our votes (pick five names and number them 1 to 5, with 5 being the most preferred) and the name with the highest score wins. I respectfully submit my four denominational names: micronatiums, unrecogniziums, numismaticos, and mavericks.
Does this contest sound like a good way of doing the name selection? Any other ideas are welcome?
Cheers, Greg
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Post by knossos on Jan 1, 2005 11:09:12 GMT -5
Hey Greg:
I'll second the motion on that if you want to move this over to the "polls". Perhaps it could be simplifed, four names per member, four votes per member, 1 to 4 as you suggested. But either way, it sounds good.
As for myself, I was thinking along the lines of a double entendre. We have an all male (so far) coin collecting club. of 13. What about; "13 Nuts", "13 Balls" or "13 Stones"?
Chaim seemed to be dipping into Greek Mythology a bit. I'd love to go that route. However, most of my ideas seem to come from the Iliad, Odessy, the Minoan period or Alexander's Macedonia.
As for the "eye". Does anyone remember Rudyard Kipling's "The Man Who Would be King"? Danny and Peechee travelled to unkonwn "Kafiristan", where they discovered the all seeing "eye" had preceeded them in Alexander's time. They discovered a treasure left by Alexander, lots of jewels, anyone remember the coin denomination??
Oh well, I'll just stick with something less clever. My fourth nominee is "Quid".
Greg. If you want, maybe move your suggestion over to the "polls" and maybe put a time limit on this. There are always members who do not voice an opinion.
Stephen
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Post by gkmac123 on Jan 1, 2005 11:30:18 GMT -5
Thanks Stephen! Oded and Alejandro also thought that the pole/contest was a good idea.
Rather than have me handle the set-up of this pole, I would rather Oded or George do it, as I have no idea how to do it. (It's not just a simple Yes/No type of vote.) Besides, we first need to wait a reasonable amount of time until a good number of names have been submitted.
Oded or George, can you help out with this pole/contest?
Cheers, Greg
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Post by shibolet on Jan 1, 2005 11:35:01 GMT -5
My four nominees would be:
My first choice is: Argos; other possible choices are: Incognitus (meaning unknown or unrecognised...), Pecunia (simply meaning money) and Funds (with the thought in my head of the denominations 1 Fun, 2 Funds etc.)
Stephen's idea about balls/nuts has "alas" already been used by the Isle of Brechou with their "1 Knacker" denomination...
Chaim
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Post by OdedPaz on Jan 1, 2005 11:35:05 GMT -5
I would, if I could, but I have no idea how it is done . George - HELP !!! Oded
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Post by shibolet on Jan 1, 2005 11:37:07 GMT -5
Oded,
I'll set up the poll, no problem!
I'll just have to make a list of all the possibilities that have been forwarded, and let everyone vote...
Chaim
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Post by shibolet on Jan 1, 2005 12:19:50 GMT -5
The possible names submitted until now for the new coin are (alphabetically):
single/plural
ARGOS / ARGOS BALL / BALLS BUG / BUGS FREELANDER / FREELANDERS FUN / FUNDS INCOGNITUS / INCOGNITI MAVERICK / MAVERICKS MICRONATIUM / MICRONATIUMS NUM / NUMIS NUMISMATICO / NUMISMATICOS nûsense / nûsenses NUSQUAM NUT / NUTS PAX / PAX PECUNIA / PECUNIA QUID / QUIDS SHEKEL / SHEKELS SOVEREIGN / SOVEREIGNS STÆTIUM / STAETIUMS or STÆTIÆ STATESIUM / STATESIUMS STONE / STONES TALER / TALERS UNRECOGNISIUM / UNRECOGNISIUMS UNRECOGNIZIUM / UNRECOGNIZIUMS USeNSe, twosense, trusense, quadsense / plusense USINIUS / USINIA WORLDINIUS / WORLDINIUS or WORLDINIÆ<br>
If anyone feels I forgot a name or bastardised the plural, please write...
Anyone who hasn't yet put in his ideas is welcome to do so until Januari 4th . Remember: maximum 4 possible names per member. Remember also that this is our visiting card to the (sometimes overly serious) numismatic world...
Anyone who has had idea's but would like to withdraw them, is welcome to do so as well until that time!
Because of the way the polling possibility is built on this site, we'll do the polling in 2 rounds; in the first round (from 4 to 9 januari) there'll be four groups of names, of which everybody can choose 1 possibility (4 polls in total, groups A, B, C, D, the coins to be devided between the groups alphabetically).
When the 4 "top names" (or when there is a tie, top 5 names) come out, we hold a second round, with the top names only.
Chaim
PS Greg, Alejandro, Stephen, Oded, Erik, George and I have already put down our choices. The rest of you, please let yourself be heard...
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Post by OdedPaz on Jan 1, 2005 12:24:10 GMT -5
Shibolet,
Please remove Oded & Paz and add Usinius.
Thanks,
Oded
DONE: CHAIM
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Post by alejandro guelfand on Jan 1, 2005 13:38:29 GMT -5
Denarius , moneta , oro , doublon , platiniums , terra , freelander , sestercius , odeds , piece , pezzo , cow , bugs ( like bucks ) , morlaco , planets , ape , worldinius , statesiums , Mycenian , funds
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Post by gkmac123 on Jan 1, 2005 14:03:33 GMT -5
Hi Alejandro,
You can only submit four (4) names for the USNS coin. From your long list above, what are your four (4) most preferred names?
Cheers, Greg
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Post by gkmac123 on Jan 1, 2005 14:21:57 GMT -5
Hi Chaim, I don't know if I like your voting method... maybe I don't understand it. It sounds like you are planning to group the names into four groups and if the name we like is in that group then we vote for that particular group. If I like another name almost as well, but it is in a different group from the first, then it doesn't get a vote. Is this correct? I don't like this method if it is correct. Maybe a simple "write-in" vote would be better where we submit out top 4 choices in their order of preference. (Maybe we should vote for our top 10 choices, so as to force people to vote for other people's names and not just their own. What do you think?) You can then tabulate the results on January 9th or 10th from all message board responces. Does this alternative method sound reasonable? If you do use this "write-in" voting method, please be sure to assign numerical values to each voted name (i.e. a person's #1 preferred name would get a numerical value of 4, or 10 if you allow 10 choices, and their #2 name gets a value of 3 (or 9), etc.), rather than one point per vote which could result in a tie between several names. Cheers, Greg
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Post by OdedPaz on Jan 1, 2005 16:04:37 GMT -5
Hu?
KISS !!!
Oded
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Post by evm111 on Jan 1, 2005 20:16:51 GMT -5
OK. I guess after a few hours of pondering and playing with words, it's time for me to put in my 5cents' worth: Here are my suggestions, based on Usinius, which really caught my attention. I wanted to try to use the letters USNS, so this pretty much narrowed my options. I also tried to keep these 4 letters capitalized, and the other letters minuscule:
sing- USeNSe plur- USeNSes
from this we can derive: trUSeNSe trUSeNSes plUseNSe plUSeNSes and here is the one I think I like best of all (from my little batch); it is important to keep the vertical line atop the U to bring attention to the long vowel sound: nÛSeNSe nÛSeNSes which sounds like "nuisance" and "nuisances" (which in some affectionate respects, these coins of ours are like little nuisances); maybe we could dispense witht he capitals and write: nûsense nûsenses Erik
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Post by evm111 on Jan 1, 2005 20:20:58 GMT -5
Unfortunately, the letter U and u appeared as Û and û with a curved line; I found the alt code for the u with the horizontal line (alt+0362 and alt+0363), but these didn't seem to work. I think the words might look better with a horizontal line above the U and u; not that curved thing.
Erik
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